How can you plan to retire early if you are not in tune with your spending? In order to understand what your FIRE number will be, you have to know what your annual expenses are!

Not just your current annual expenses, but more importantly what your projected annual expenses will be once you FIRE.

Of course there are many unknowns as to what the future might hold but you have to do the best you can to estimate these future costs.  The last thing you want to do is estimate a FIRE number based off your current spending, only to realize it looks much different once you reach FIRE!

This week’s post will focus not only on our current monthly costs, but also what we expect the future to hold.

What are our current monthly costs?

Below are our current monthly expenses for 2019:

Monthly Expesnes For 2019 With Mortgage Chart

Our misnomer mortgage expenses

This comes out to a total annual expense of $55,030.  This is MUCH higher than what is reflected in our FIRE number.  This is mostly due to all the of money we are shoveling towards our mortgage.

When we bought our Canadian townhouse in June 2016, we purchased it for $315,000 and put $63,000 down upfront (20%).  This left us with a mortgage of $252,000 with a 2.59% interest rate for a 25-year term.  This means a monthly payment of $1,141 and by the end of that 25-year timeframe our house would be paid off but we also would have contributed $89,963 towards interest to the bank.  No thanks!

Thanks to house hacking our previous home, we have ALL the funds for the remainder of our mortgage sitting in a high interest savings account earning more than the interest rate on our mortgage (winning!). By paying off our Florida townhouse mortgage in 2.5 years (thanks to house hacking) we never have to worry about housing expenses again.

We could have bought our brand new townhouse in cash upfront but we decided against that since the interest rates were so low. The plan from the get-go was to pay the mortgage off quickly, within 5 years, before the interest rates would change as this aligns perfectly with our FIRE date. While some people may have chosen to pay for the house upfront to not have to deal with a mortgage, we decided to go a different route which allows us some flexibility with this cash if an emergency happens to arise.

Therefore, the mortgage expense is a bit of a misnomer as we are not having to put any earned income towards it, the payments are coming directly out of our high interest savings account that was funded by our previous home in Florida.

Our bank allows us a few methods to pay off the mortgage early so we can stick to our 5-year payoff timeframe.

  • We have the option to increase our monthly payments by 15% which we are doing which bumps it up to $1,321.  If we only did this, we would shave 4.5 years off our mortgage timeframe and “only” have paid the banks $72,531.  No thanks!
  • We also have the option to pay double up payments each month which we are also implementing as well.  This now reduces our payoff date by 8.91 years and a total of $30,273 in interest.  Not bad, but we can do better.
  • We also have the option of throwing lump sum payments of up to 15% of the original mortgage amount towards the remaining balance each year.  This comes out to just over $37,000/year of additional payments that we can make in addition to the extra payments above. In the first calendar year we threw ~$26,000 extra towards the mortgage, the second calendar year we threw the full $37,000 towards it, the third year we also threw the full $37,000 extra towards it, and this year we decided to hold off in case the markets took a dip.  The plan is to throw the last large chunk of $37,000 at in 2020.  This allows us to pay off our mortgage within a 5-year timeframe and we will have only paid $16,314 towards interest on the mortgage (again our high interest account has made more than this so we don’t view this as a bad thing).  Having that money on hand to decide where to put it (either into stocks, bonds, or our high interest savings account) was worth it to us.

Since the mortgage is a bit of a misnomer, here is what our current monthly expenses look like without the mortgage:

2019 Expenses Without Mortgage Chart

We are sitting closer to $2,000/month or ~$23,000 in annual expenses which is what we actually are spending from our earned income each year.

Let’s review

Housing Costs

The rest of our monthly home related costs come out to $727/month.

  • Our home insurance is through a broker who ensures we get the most competitive rate each year.  This year it comes out to $979/year for our townhouse which is about 1,000 square feet above ground with a finished basement which adds another 400 square feet.
  • Not much we can do about property taxes.  We are fine paying property taxes as it helps improve the town we live in.
  • Not much we can do with the HOA either unless we decide to move elsewhere where there wouldn’t be an HOA fee.  This HOA is less than half of what we were paying for our HOA in Florida so I think it is quite reasonable.  It includes coverage for all exterior items including the roof as well as landscaping in the summer and snow removal in the winter (right up to our doorstep, it’s actually impressive!).
  • The water bill is really more than just water. It’s our Town Utilities bill which includes water, sewer, waste/recycling/organics (I love that we have a weekly compost pick up and that our recycling bin is larger than our waste bin), storm sewer, and the eco center (where we can bring one-off items like TVs, batteries, Styrofoam, etc.).
  • We use Telus for our internet and we recently learned about Lightspeed and TekSavvy but unfortunately we can only use fiber optics cable since we are in a newer townhouse but neither of these providers can operate on fiber optics.  If you’re in Canada and don’t have fiber optic cable, check these companies out as you can likely cut your internet bill in half.
  • We cut the cable TV cord years ago and haven’t looked back so no cable TV expense for us.
  • Electricity/natural gas rates in Alberta are ridiculously high (compared to our Florida rates at least) due to the high fixed transmission and distribution costs in our bill that come out to ~$100/month right off the bat.  The cost of energy used is actually quite low (we pay 6.49 cents per kWh).  We thought of installing solar panels but if we couldn’t rely on them 100% of the time to live off grid we’d still be paying this minimum $100 in monthly charges to be connected to the grid so unfortunately it’s not worthwhile for us.

Food Costs

As for food, we dove into our food costs already, so check out that post if you missed it.

Car Costs

Let’s dive a bit deeper on the monthly car costs which total $234/month.

  • By having two older, low-mileage, reliable cars we are able to keep our car insurance low (~$67/month/vehicle).  Being females also helps, I think this is one of the few areas where it’s actually a blue tax instead of a pink tax! These cars were also paid in cash upfront so there are no monthly car payments.  We used a broker (Surex Direct) to identify the best/cheapest rates for both our home insurance and car insurance that we have bundled.  We contact him each year to look for the best rates and have no issues switching if another provider has a better rate for the same coverage.
  • As for gas, we pay ~$1.00/liter or $3.78/gallon which is low for Canada thanks to living in the province with the majority, if not all, the oil & gas production for the county (not saying we are oil & gas fans) but it’s still much higher than what we were used to paying at the pump in Florida. Neither of us currently have a commute for work as my wife is a stay at home mom and I work remotely from my basement when I’m not travelling for work.  When I do need to drive to the airport for a work trip, my company reimburses me for the gas.
  • Car maintenance is low which accounts for a couple oil & filter changes a year and then any maintenance that may pop up.  We spent ~$400 on a repair for my wife’s car earlier this year and we likely will not need to spend on anything else major this year since our cars both have under 100,000 kilometers/60,000 miles on them.

Travel Expenses

As for travel, this is slightly lower than our running average of $125/month ($1,500/year) due to only one international family trip this year to Florida using points for ½ of it (3 one way tickets with points + 3 one way tickets in cash), a trip to Barcelona mainly paid for by points (round trip airfare and 2 out of 3 hotel nights with points), and a few trips out to the cabin in the summer where we spend about $100 on gas round trip. Did I mention we are really big into travel hacking too?? We will get into that at another time in the future…

Miscellaneous Expenses

Miscellaneous is for ANYTHING else not listed on here.  I have been tracking our expenses to the penny since 2009 and this is the average monthly amount for random shit we buy be it an annual sports center pass, new glasses, going to a concert, clothes, stamps, art exhibits, gifts, a speeding ticket, etc.

All Things Baby

The three Finn line items are all of our baby related costs so far this year.  We are maxing out her RESP (Registered Education Savings Plan which is like a 529 in the states except for the awesome bonus of the government matching 20% up to $500/year which equates to us contributing $2,500/year or $208/month which is what we are doing – immediate 20% gain, go Canada go!).

We are spending about $50/month on additional baby related food (mostly on berries, no joke).  And the last line item of $50/month on activities includes everything from consumables like diapers and wipes to activities like our annual zoo pass.

Luckily, we have learned kids don’t need to be expensive and we are spending less on her now than compared to her first year of life.  Don’t worry, there will be a future post covering in detail our baby costs to date.

What’s up next in 2020?

Here’s what we are anticipating 2020 to have in store for us:

2020 Expenses With Mortgage Chart

Ouch $92,562 down the drain in 2020!

As mentioned above, we plan to throw an additional $37,000 towards our mortgage, so that comes out to an extra $3,083/month.  That’s a total of $68,704 going towards our mortgage in 2020.  But, by the end of 2020 we will only have $8,885 left on our mortgage so it will be wiped out for good in April 2021.

Since again the mortgage is a bit of a misnomer, here is what we have in store for 2020 without the mortgage:

2020 Expenses Without Mortgage Chart

This comes out to an overall increase in expenses of 4.98% year over year. How so?

  • We’ve bumped up gas by $50/month if I decide to switch jobs and work part time downtown. This would entail ~1 tank of gas extra per month which is likely closer to $35-40 but we made it $50 just to be safe.
  • We also bumped up travel back to our running average normal of $125/month which is also impacted by me potentially switching jobs.  If I switch to part time it will free up more time for more trips, not a bad thing in my books!
  • We plan to spend a bit more on the monster’s monthly food costs although if she oddly decides berries are no longer her thing, we may be over projecting (highly unlikely).
  • We estimate all other items to increase by 3% for inflation hence the slight difference in costs elsewhere.

What’s up in 2021?

Here is what the start of 2021 looks like with the remainder of the mortgage:

2021 Expensnes With Remainder of Mortgage Chart

Still high, sitting at $5,068/month!

This of course is due to the mortgage again. We are still dealing with the mortgage and double up payment through April, but after this the mortgage is gone and we are officially debt free! No annual lump sum needed this year either!

Additional changes:

  • Accounting again for 3% inflation year over year for most items.
  • We expect travel to remain the same thanks to our awesome balance of over 1 million travel points accumulated over the years.
  • Expectation that Finn costs will go up slightly as we may need to pay for more activities at this age.  Hopefully not? Note that we are not concerned about child clothing costs as we have received enough free hand me downs in really good condition until she is 5 years old at this point – thank you Varage Sale!
  • We also are hopeful for babes 2 in 2021 (who knows, may be sooner may be later but we have to pick a random date for these calculations).  We think $60/month is very realistic for babes 2 to start off since we’ve averaged less than $100/month with Finn so far and for babes 2 we would only need consumables like diapers, wipes, cream, gas drops, teething medicine, etc. since we will reuse all other items that Finn used at that early age.

What You’ve All Been Waiting For (if you’re still reading…)

Ladies and gents, boys and girls, the moment you have all been waiting for…  May I present to you our projected FIRE annual expenses!

Here is what we are projecting for the remainder of 2021 (and beyond) which is our goal FIRE date:

Post-FIRE Annual Expenses Chart

Ta-da! Our total annual expenses are projected to be just shy of $35,000 per year.

Changes We Foresee Once We Reach FIRE

  • Eliminated Mortgage and Annual Lump Sum Payments
    • Boom! See ya NEVER!
  • New Item: House Repairs
    • Our townhouse will be 5 years old at this point and unfortunately things aren’t built like they used to be in the past so we are planning for repairs ahead of time.  If they don’t happen until year 10 even better!
  • Lowered Car Insurance
    • Once we FIRE we will transition to a single car home, woo hoo!
  • Steady YoY Gas Costs
    • No more work = no more commute so we will be saving on gas there.  However, we likely will go on more trips out to the mountains so we are keeping this the same as our pre-FIRE gas costs.
  • Lowered Car Maintenance
    • Same as above for why our car insurance will be lower.  Half the number of vehicles means half the estimated maintenance.
  • New Item: Phone
    • Right now my employer pays for my phone and my wife pays $13/month through Public Mobile (which is part of our Miscellaneous category for now – PS use code M4O794 for a $10 credit when you sign up).  We’ve carved out an additional $50/month for future phone plans although I do not foresee us getting this high in the near future.  I like the idea of having Wi-Fi only on my device to be disconnected as much as possible especially since I am currently glued to my work phone and constantly need to be checking emails regardless the time of day.  We would have one phone that would go with us whenever we leave the house in case of an emergency. Or I may cave and also get the same $13/month plan that my wife has and we would both be connected. And then if/when kiddos need a phone they too can get the cheap plan as we never want unlimited plans and become robots to our devices.
  • New item: Supplemental Medical Insurance
    • While most health related items in Canada are free there are a few items that are not: vision (although free for kids under 18), dental, and prescriptions.  We are going to do a cost analysis to see if we find it will be worthwhile for supplemental insurance for these items or to pay them outright per visit.  We looked up a plan that would suit us well if we do decide to go with insurance and its listed for just under $100 so we put in $125 as a hedge. Right now we are healthy so we may opt out to start but may want this down the road.
  • Increased Travel
    • The main increase (albeit a small increase of $300/year) is due to our thoughts of heading somewhere warm for 4-6 weeks in the dead of winter each year.  We will aim for a low cost of living country and do slow travel either at an Airbnb or dip our toes in a homestay where housing would be free.  Or we may road trip somewhere down south in the states and camp for a month (we love camping and disconnecting from it all).
    • We also plan to spend all summer at our family cabin so this will reduce our travel expense as we currently account for gas to and from the cabin a few times over the summer instead of just once.
    • We also plan to head to Florida once a year to visit family like we always do.
    • We also will have more free time to dig into our side passion of travel hacking to scope out the best point sign ups available and travel hacking advice from the pros.
  • Increased Finn & Baby 2 Miscellaneous/Activities
    • We have no clue what we will be spending on the babes in the future so this is really just a guess at this point and likely the one to throw us for a curve ball.  Any FIRE parents out there that can give us a ballpark figure of what to expect once the kiddos get older?  We know if travel hockey comes into play we will likely be working part time to fund that insanely expensive sport while they are in school (which we are totally ok with and realize we likely will be doing something part time once they are in school anyway). Our thought is no child care costs, no before school costs, no after school costs since we will be home to take them to and from school each day.  We don’t want to be too busy that we can’t enjoy life so maybe an after school activity once or twice a week max.  Weekends out in the mountains exploring, doing arts & crafts, going for walks, and partaking in the many free activities offered by our town.  And then summers at the cabin where the most expensive item is ice cream.  Maybe a week long summer camp?  The nice side here is that we are projecting this into our annual expenses forever so once we kick the kiddo(s) to the curb this will mean more travel or leisure activities for us down the road.

There you have it! Phew, this was a LONG post but hopefully it provides insight as to how we are calculating our annual expenses once we reach FIRE. As you can see it’s not as simple as looking at what your expenses are today.

How do your monthly expenses compare?  Is there anything you can think of that we are missing?  Any suggestions for how to lower our projected FIRE annual expense figure?  Comment below and thanks again for following along!

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23 thoughts on “A Look Into Our Monthly Expenses”

  1. Sheryll Villanueva

    Love it! Learning a lot from you guys. I’m still on my debt free journey but these information are very great to look and learn from.

    1. Thank you Sheryll! Glad you can find our content useful 🙂 hopefully we can provide some insight to help supercharge your debt free journey

  2. Thank you for putting the details out there! I love reading other folks’ spending reports.

    On kids… we have one, and she’s easy to please. We spend more on her than we need to, and less than her friends’ parents if that makes sense. We do a lot of “family fun” type of activities like ice skating, bowling, movie theaters – the fun of having a six year old 🙂 We budget for one week of summer camp, which can get more expensive as they get older (i.e. academic camps vs YMCA camps).

    As far as ongoing expenses, we pay for gymnastics ($70/m plus outfits), basketball (about $60 for the season), and a ski pass for her. It’s fun doing activities with her, and sometimes those activities cost money, sometimes they don’t. I also think we’re used to this level of spending now, whereas if we’d had her when we were younger (grad school for example), she would be the QUEEN of the free activities.

    1. Thanks for all of this Kim! I too love learning about other people’s numbers so I figured it was only fair to be clairvoyant with ours.

      Thanks for the insight on your costs for your child – as we mentioned were kind of in the dark here but after hearing your spending I think we are in pretty good shape with our figures.

      Thanks for the feedback 🙂

  3. Curating.Contentment

    It’s so helpful to see your thought process! I think the stuff I have trouble wrapping my head around is you no longer have to save for things like a new car/major home repairs, you just pull it out of savings – correct?

    AMAZING work, you guys!

    1. Glad you found it helpful! So for the car, we will be selling one of our current two cars and the growth of that sale over the years in the market plus whatever we sell the car we are keeping will be more than our future purchase price for our next used reliable low mileage car. It will be close to half the amount needed for the next car down the road (example $15k to buy vs only buying a $7k car). The remaining half will continue to grow back up to ~$15k over 10 years and fund the next car ~10 years later, etc etc. If there is some major catastrophe like large home repairs etc we likely can withdraw more than our projected $35k because we are under the 4% withdrawal rate by quite a bit. If it’s something super major, we can always amp up our side gig, whatever it may be, to help fund larger costs. Or if we don’t want to bank on that another thought is then whatever we sell the home for down the road we will account for home repair cost and buy our next place at a lower price to account for that difference. Although there is a good chance we won’t need to do any of this with a sub 4% withdrawal rate as we likely will see our investments grow quite significantly over the years to allow for one off repairs like such. Hope this makes sense!

  4. Oh yeah! Gotta love those numbers. 😍 We’re sitting at $2.7k a month with mortgage atm, and projected to be about the same once we hit fire as we want to travel overseas more and will still have ongoing business costs for the blogs. 🙂 Love seeing the numbers for Finn too, definitely good to keep in mind if we end up heading down that track in the near future. 😉

    1. Numbers numbers numbers! That’s a great way to look at it – supplement the mortgage payments with more travel 🙌 We will go into a few future posts of covering annual Finn costs to help any who is looking for a FIRE approach to baby raising/costs vs what the media portrays

  5. Wow! This was a thorough overview – thanks for putting it together!

    Have you guys ever thought about homeschooling your kid(s)? I heard it’s really popular in Alberta and there are many options… not sure how that would affect the expenses

    I am really interested in the travel hacking you are doing as it doesn’t seem as easy to do in Canada..

    1. Sure thing! Glad you found it helpful 🥰 We’ve talked about but haven’t really thought too hard about it. We like the idea of the social side of public school but know it’s more and more about test results rather than creative thinking. So something to keep talking about for sure. Unfortunately most of our travel hacking comes from US based credit cards (we both can still apply and get approved even though we now live in Canada). We have a few Canadian cards but as you mention, it’s definitely not as lucrative in Canada

  6. First thing I wanted to do was rush to the bottom and comment on the paying off your mortgage goal. I am a proponent of not doing so but then saw how small of a mortgage you have and how it aligns with your FIRE target date. This all makes sense now so I say rock it ! Good work to keep the RESP maxed to the grant max, did you get the AB grant or did that get axed during political warfare out there? Lastly, have you maxed your TFSA accounts and RRSP already (for what you are both legally allowed with citizenship status)

    Well done

    1. We too see and understand mathematically why paying off our mortgage so fast likely doesn’t make the most sense financially but we tried to show our logic behind why we are doing it (to align with our FIRE date) which you now understand 🥰 We will continue to max out the RESP to the grant max and include that in our FIRE calcs. And once the RESP contributions are done we figure that $2500/year will go towards visiting our kid in school for those years and then extra vacations for us down the road. As for grants, we get the CESG and CLB but as far as I know, there are no additional AB grants out there? There was the Alberta Centennial Education Savings (ACES) but that closed back on March 2015. Are you aware of some other education account for Albertans I should dig into? I’m in a pickle with my TFSA being dual and I’ve been maxing out my RRSP but my wife still has a bit of room in each of hers so now our extra savings will be going towards topping up her TFSA first and then we will decide about RRSP. (I’ve been delaying hoping for a market correction, I know I know, I’m being silly thinking that way!) I don’t like that there are no penalty-free ways to withdraw from your RRSP early – unless you know of a workaround?

  7. I’m just wondering what y’all are doing for kids’ clothing? I didn’t really see anything allocated for it in the budget. We’ve been trying the Once Upon a Child/Kijiji/Joe Fresh sale route, but are still spending a chunk on clothing every month with a growing toddler. Seems they grow so fast and we don’t have family nearby for hand-me-downs.

    1. Wow I am so sorry I didn’t see this earlier, I apologize for the delay! We have been very fortunate to have found so many free kids clothes through the VarageSale App. If you haven’t heard of it, I’d definitely recommend it! In addition to tons of free items, we’ve also been able to score some amazing lots (~70 items for ~$25). They also have tons of other items listed too of course which has helped us to keep our overall child costs down. Our neighbours have 2 boys and they also have given us some hand me downs once their little guys have outgrown some items (and we don’t care if our little girl wears boy clothes – she’s obsessed with puppies and dinos which seem to be classified as “boys” for whatever reason).

  8. Just found your blog, good read so far. Very interesting for us as we too have a 2021 FIRE date

    One section I have questions about is travel:
    “The main increase (albeit a small increase of $300/year) is due to our thoughts of heading somewhere warm for 4-6 weeks in the dead of winter each year. ”
    Even with a LOT of travel points, I can’t imagine a $7-10 per day vacation. Even our fairly frugal travel style to the cheapest of destinations budgets at least 5x as much not including flights.

    Also, where are these “free homestays”? I’ve found a few for under $20 a night, but why would someone let you live with them for free?
    Looking forward to a travel hacking post!

    1. Thanks for the note Thomas and glad you found us. We will be spending less from our current travel expenses in the summers as we will be spending less gas to and from the cabin which helps with the net annual travel expenses to account for the overall $300/year difference. Some years we may go down to Florida where we have lots of friends and family where we wouldn’t need to pay for any housing. So it’s just a general amount as some years we may spend $600 more some we may do more local travel and spend less than we currently spend. We’ve traveled for weeks at a time in the past for a very low cost thanks to travel hacking flights and hotel, using public transit, eating at local markets, going for lots of walks, and either camping for finding very affordable places. There are websites like trustedhousitters.com for example where you can stay at a home for free. This is just one example, there are quite a few similar sites out there if you search for them. Our friends over at alloptionsconsidered.com have done many free house sits during their long term travels. Essentially the home owners like the peace of mind knowing someone is looking after their home. Maybe they need you to pick up the newspaper, or feed/walk their pets if they have them, etc and in return they let you stay at their place for free. It’s an incredible concept if you ask me!

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