Comments on: Can You Buy VTSAX As A Canadian? https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian Helping other families and individuals reach financially Independence Mon, 11 Dec 2023 11:02:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Canadian Portfolio Update - Mrs. Money Hacker https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-6474 Mon, 11 Dec 2023 11:02:08 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-6474 […] 1: VTSAX is not available in Canada. After some research, I found a very similar fund. This post gives a good comparison. In summary, if you buy VUN (Vanguard Total US Stock Market ETF), it’s […]

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By: Moon https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-5135 Tue, 06 Dec 2022 05:17:54 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-5135 I really found this post super informative. I am on my FIRE journey and hearing JL Colin’s Google talk, I was trying to navigate thru the VTSAX situation while in Canada. Could you kindly detail the step by step method to perform Norbert’s Gambit via IBKR (Interactive Brokers) Canada for VTI?
While any gains within TFSA are tax free, does the same also apply for gains made within an RRSP (assuming VTI is purchased after converting from CAD to USD)?

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By: Court and Nic https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-4661 Sat, 17 Sep 2022 03:38:59 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-4661 In reply to AP.

Aw thanks AP for this comment, appreciate it! Glad you found it helpful!

And appreciate that you understand my sense of humour 🙂

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By: AP https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-4655 Fri, 16 Sep 2022 01:43:56 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-4655 Thank you so much for this informative post! It was the EXACT question I had when I moved to Canada from the US and was like “Ok, great, I’ll just go to Vanguard and find VTSAX and…uh oh…now what?” (Also, I laughed out loud several times while reading your post, so thanks for that, too.)

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By: Court and Nic https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-3002 Tue, 26 Oct 2021 04:27:40 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-3002 In reply to Fiona.

Once you’re in USD (which VTI is) then there are no withholding taxes if inside your RRSP since you’re in the same currency as the holdings.

This can happen either by performing Norberts Gambit or by simply paying your brokerage a fee to convert your currency from CAD to USD. So your extra costs have already been incurred by paying the percentage fee to the broker to convert for you. (Depending on how much you are converting, this could be a little or a lot of money.)

A RRSP is the one registered Canadian account that gets special treatment by the IRS. There is generally no withholding tax if you own U.S. stocks or U.S.-listed ETFs (like VTI). However, if you own a Canadian-listed ETF (like VUN) or Canadian mutual fund that owns US stocks, the tax is withheld before it gets to the fund or to your RRSP.

US withholding taxes are all accounted for behind the scene in your accounts. So if you are holding VTI in an account besides your RRSP, your brokerage will handle all the withholding taxes involved. Same goes if holding VUN. Withholding taxes is ONLY on the dividends, not capital gains. There is way too much focus going on in the FI/personal finance space about withholding taxes. Unfortunately it’s just the price you pay to be able to be part of the largest economy in the world. And because it’s ONLY on the dividends, it really is quite minuscule.

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By: Fiona https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-3001 Tue, 26 Oct 2021 04:16:17 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-3001 ]]> If we invested in VTI and skipped Norberts Gambit will our withholding be that much? I’m a KISS investor and NBs just goes over my head😳

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By: Katherina https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-2997 Sun, 24 Oct 2021 11:33:49 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-2997 In reply to Court and Nic.

Thank you for taking the time to respond and for the reference.

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By: Court and Nic https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-2968 Sun, 17 Oct 2021 21:20:47 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-2968 In reply to Ash.

Mathematically, yes time in the market is your best friend so investing as often as you can historically meant that you will see higher returns vs waiting say quarterly for to lump sum investments.

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By: Court and Nic https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-2967 Sun, 17 Oct 2021 21:19:31 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-2967 In reply to Ash.

Hey Ash, glad you found us!

Yes, you can invest in VTI within both your RRSP and TFSA. You will have to convert your CAD to USD first in both accounts. This can be done either via Norberts Gambit or paying the currency conversion fee (not recommended). Another option is to keep your money in CAD and invest in VUN instead which is the Canadian equivalent.

Do not worry about share price – it has nothing to do with market returns. Buying 2x of VFV does not mean it’s 2x more valuable than 1x of VTI just because it’s priced at half the price of VTI. Google a comparison chart of historical returns of VFV vs VTI and you will see they are nearly identical as they are similar indexes.

You certainly could do Norberts Gambit and invest in VFV if you’d like. The biggest difference is that VFV tracks the top 500 US companies whereas VTI tacks all of the US companies (over 4000).

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By: Ash https://modernfimily.com/can-you-buy-vtsax-as-a-canadian/#comment-2965 Sun, 17 Oct 2021 20:51:17 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=2802#comment-2965 In reply to Ash.

Also! 3. Is it advisable to invest in multiple rounds than a lump sum?

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