Comments on: What Is Our FIRE Number And Why? https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=what-is-our-fire-number-and-why Helping other families and individuals reach financially Independence Thu, 13 May 2021 05:54:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Our Updated FIRE Number | Modern FImily https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-2080 Thu, 13 May 2021 05:54:19 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-2080 […] in September 2019 we wrote a very detailed post outlining how we arrived to our FIRE number. We also broke down our monthly expenses to show even further where we were coming from and our […]

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By: Is Now The Time to Convert USD to CAD? | Modern FImily https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-777 Thu, 12 Nov 2020 08:20:39 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-777 […] in USD as I worked in the US for the majority of my career, of which some of that is in cash.  In our FIRE calculations, we assume a USD/CAD exchange rate of 1.30 which is part of how we go from a 4% withdrawal rate […]

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By: Q3 2020 Net Worth Update | Modern FImily https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-659 Thu, 15 Oct 2020 05:48:56 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-659 […] are keeping all currencies as is in their current currency denomination, but as we mentioned in a previous post outlining our FIRE number, we are using currency arbitrage to keep our safe withdrawal rate below […]

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By: Court and Nic https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-134 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:27:40 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-134 In reply to Chris @ Mindful Explorer.

Yep! The government of Canada actually just bumped it up this year to 18 months of paid parental leave! The net overall pay ends up being the same as the 12 month option but you can now choose to be off for up to 18 months now if you’d like. That’s what Nic ended up doing. And I plan to do that with hopeful babes 2 to extend our employer paid benefits for our first 18 months once we FIRE. The health alone is why we are planning to stay in Canada long term vs heading back down to the states.

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By: Court and Nic https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-133 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 15:20:20 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-133 Ah I hadn’t thought of the GST debate cheque’s, that’s true too! More fuel for our FIRE bucket. The goal is to live off the sub 2% dividends from VTSAX 😁]]> In reply to Chris @ Mindful Explorer.

Haha yes we are VERY fiscally conservative, even more conservative than ERN who seems to be the most conservative FIRE blogger out there that we know of 😂 Ah I hadn’t thought of the GST debate cheque’s, that’s true too! More fuel for our FIRE bucket. The goal is to live off the sub 2% dividends from VTSAX 😁

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By: Chris @ Mindful Explorer https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-132 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 14:50:01 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-132 In reply to Court and Nic.

Don’t forget that the Canada Govt also provides 52 weeks of paid maternity leave on top of giving the child care payment down the road along with the free healthcare. I can not fathom living within the US health system knowing what I know from all the FIRE blogs and how it alone is one of the biggest things holding people back from leaving work, the loss of health protection.

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By: Chris @ Mindful Explorer https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-130 Thu, 26 Sep 2019 14:45:30 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-130 Reviewing all of this finally and with that crazy SWR I’m shocked you are jumping to part time when you could go completely FIRE 🙂 Then dropping the bomb on all those extra contingencies and cash savings hiding here and there plus all the pensions and the future potential incomes you are doing great. Also, don’t forget you will also start to get GST rebate cheques when you FIRE. I get a tiny quarterly cheque now since I left work 2 years ago.

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By: Court and Nic https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-127 Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:01:34 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-127 In reply to scott.

Totally agree! The Canadian Child Tax Benefit is AMAZING!!! Wow a family of 5 about to retire early, very impressive!!!

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By: scott https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-126 Wed, 25 Sep 2019 12:20:39 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-126 Canada has got to be the best place in the world to FIRE with kids. We are a family of 5 in Ontario and about to FIRE ourselves soon. Great blog, keep up the good work. =)

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By: Court and Nic https://modernfimily.com/what-is-our-fire-number-and-why/#comment-123 Sat, 21 Sep 2019 02:15:51 +0000 https://modernfimily.com/?p=737#comment-123 In reply to Melanie.

You are correct! Index funds, like individual stocks, provide a dividend as well as the share value. Index funds typically have lower dividends (sub 2%). So in our ideal world we will withdraw the dividend with out having to sell the shares and let the value of all of those in our accounts continue to rise over the years. This would only work if our withdrawal rate matched the dividend. If we are in need of more money than what the dividend is providing, then we would sell some of the shares (how much depends on what the shares as valued at). The thought is that the shares should grow about 7%/year so you can withdraw 4% of the shares, account for 3% for inflation, and then you’re back at your starting point to allow the 7% growth to happen again. Of course there is no guarantee to 7% annual growth which is why sequence of returns risk is very scary. Our back up plan is if the market is in a downturn when we FIRE we will find some part time job bringing in ~$25k/year so we don’t need to withdraw then. Then once the market rebounds back to our FIRE number we should be entering a bull market and we’d be more comfortable to sell shares.

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